new marines

Ca m'étonne que GW n'ait pas encore pensé à une macro-commande du genre " échangez votre voiture ou votre vieille grand mère contre une chapitre space marines en un clic "
Pratique , non ...... ou pas !! ...  

25euros le personnage....
c'est 2 fois plus chère la résine?

C'est sympas les prix chez les spaces marines didonc .

xiàlyiung a écrit:

C'est sympas les prix chez les spaces marines didonc .

comme tout le reste...

pics du dwarf

Relics
Burning Blade: S+3, AP2, Melee, Blind, Incandescent Same cost as a Razorback with Extra Armor
Incandescent: At the end of an Assault Phase in which the bearer made a successful to-hit roll with the Burning Blade roll a D6. On a roll of a 2+ nothing happens. On a roll of a 1 the bearer takes a S4, AP2 hit.

Armor of Indomitus: 2+, 6++, Relentless Same cost as a Landspeeder with a Multi-melta
Once per game during any phase the wearer may choose to temporarily push the forcefield to its limits. For the duration of that phase the Armor Indomitus has a 2++ Invunerable Save.

Shield Eternal: Storm Shield, Adamantium Will, Eternal Warrior Same cost as a Landspeeder

Primarch's Wrath: Bolter, S4, AP4, Salvo 3/5, Shred, Mastercrafted 15 points less than a Rhino

Teeth of Terra: S+2, AP3, Melee, Rampage, Specialist Weapon, Strikedown Same cost as a Rhino

Standard of the Emperor Ascendant: Same cost as Landspeeder Stom with Multi-melta
Friendly units n 12" with the same Chapter Tactics as the bearer re-roll morale checks and pinning tests. Additionally, friendly units chosen from Codex: Space Marines within 6" of the bearer have the Hatred special rule, and add +1 to their total when determining their assault rolls. Furthermore, the bearer and his unit have the Fear special rule.

Wargear
Ranged Weapons: Models may replace their Boltgun or Bolt Pistol with one of the following:

Stormbolter (5 point decrease)
Combi-Flamer, Melta, Plasma, or Grav (same cost)
Grav Pistol (Plasma Pistol price)
Plasma Pistol (same cost)

Melee Weapons: Models may replace their Boltgun or Bolt Pistol with one of the following:

Power Weapons (same cost as Tactical Sergeant's)
Lighting Claw (same cost as above)
Power Fist (same cost)
Thunderhammer (same cost as Captain's)

Terminator Weapons: (These are restricted to Independent Characters in Terminator Armor)

Storm Bolter may be replaced with:

Combi-Flamer, Melta, or Plasma (two Captain's Storm bolters)
Lighting Claw (5 points more than current option)
Thunderhammer (5 points more than current option)

Power Weapon may be replaced with:

Lighting Claw (same cost)
Stormshield (5 points less)
Powerfist (same cost)
Chainfist (same cost)
Thunderhamer (same cost)

Heavy Weapons: (points cost compared to Tactical Squad)

Heavy Bolter +10
Heavy Flamer (Sternguard and Legion of the Damned ONLY same cost as Sternguard's)
Multi-melta +10
Missile Launcher +15 (Flakk upgrade same cost as DA)
Plasma Cannon +10 points
Lascannon +10 points

Special Weapons: (points cost compared to Tactical Squad)

Flamer +5
Meltagun +5
Grav rifle (same as plasma gun)
Plasma gun +5

Special Issue Wargear:

Auspex (same cost as new Flamer)
Melta bomb (same cost as new Flamer)
Digital Weapons (same cost as new Flamer)
Teleport Homer (same cost as new Melta)
Jump Pack (same cost as 3 new Melta Bombs)
Bike (same cost as 4 new Melta Bombs)

Vehicle Wargear: (points cost compared to Rhino wargear options)

Dozer blade +0 (Land Raiders can not take)
Storm bolter -5
Hunter-killer missile +0
Extra armor -5

HQ
Chapter Master

+5 points base
Artificer Armor new cost +5
Wargear Lists: Relics, Ranged, Melee, Special, Special Issue (Terminator Armor unlocks Terminator Wargear)
Terminator Armor same cost
+1 Wound/Attack over current incarnation
Mounted Assault: If the Chapter Master purchases a bike, all Bike Squads of at least 5+ models may be taken as Troops.
Orbital Bombardment: S10, AP1, Assault 1, 1 use only.

Honor Guard

-10 points less model
Relic blades 5 points less per model
Chapter Banner same cost
May take Standard of the Emperor Ascendant

Captain

-10 points less
Mounted Assault
Wargear Lists: Relics, Ranged, Melee, Special, Special Issue

Terminator Captain

Seperate entry
-20 from current Captain in Terminator armor

Command Squad

1 may be taken for each Captain, Chaplain or Librarian in the army
-15 points less
Apothecary +15 upgrade
-60 point discount for bikes
-5 point discount on Storm shields
May trade Bolt Pistols for Bolters for free
Veterans may take Melee, and Ranged, Special wargear
May take Standard of the Emperor Ascendant

Librarian

-35 point discount
Mastery level 2: -25 point discount
No codex powers
Has access to Biomancy, Pyromancy, Telekenesis, and Telepathy disciplines
May take Terminator armor for same base cost
Not permitted in Black Templar armies (Black Templars have no rules to prevent allying psykers in)
Wargear Lists: Relics, Ranged, Melee, Special, Special Issue (Terminator Armor unlocks Terminator Wargear)
No Combi-grav

Chaplain

-10 point discount
Wargear Lists: Relics, Ranged, Melee, Special, Special Issue (Terminator Armor unlocks Terminator Wargear)
Terminator armor same cost
No Combi-grav

Master of the Forge

-10 point discount
Lord of the Armory unchanged
Wargear Lists: Relics, Ranged, Melee, Special, Special Issue
May replace Bolt Pistol or Bolter with Power Axe

Techmarine

Same points cost
May take one per HQ in your army. Does not use a slot
Wargear Lists: Ranged, Melee, Special Issue
May replace Bolt Pistol or Bolter with Power Axe

Servitors

Same base cost for unit
Additional Servitors cost 5 points less each
Heavy bolter -10 cost reduction
Multi-melta -20 point cost reduction
Plasma Cannon -10 point cost reduction

Troops
Tactical Marines

-2 point per model cost reduction
Veteran Sergeant upgrade same cost as in DA book
Sergeant/Veteran Sergeant have access to Melee and Ranged wargear
If the unit has less than 10 models 1 model may take 1 weapon from either the Special or Heavy Weapons Wargear lists
If the unit has 10 models one model may take 1 weapon from the Special Weapons list and a different model may take 1 weapon from the Heavy Weapons Wargear list

Scouts

-2 points per model cost reduction
Heavy bolter -2 points
Hellfire shells same cost as Meltabomb
Missile launcher same cost as wargear list
Flakk same cost as wargear list
Veteran Sergeant upgrade same cost as in DA book
Sergeant/Veteran Sergeant have access to Melee and Ranged wargear
Camo cloaks -1 point discount
Teleport homer -5 points
Sniper Rifle +1 points
May take a Landspeeder Storm as a Dedicated Transport

Crusader Squad

Initiates same cost as Tacticals
Neophyte base leadership now 8 (Zion's notes: I did check, and the old ones were base 7, they just tested on an 8 because of the Initiates, so please no burning my car down for being "wrong")
1 Initiate may take either a Heavy Weapon or a Power Weapon or a Power Fists
A different Initiate may take a Special Weapon
Sword Brethren upgrade same cost as Veteran Sergeant (same wargear options too)
Has Chapter Tactics: Black Templars
May take a Land Raider Crusader as a Dedicated Transport

Dedicated Transports
Rhino

No changes (wargear prices changed for codex)

Razorback

+15 points base cost
Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer now a free option
Assault Cannon -15 point reduction
TL Lascannon -15 reduction
Lascannon/TL Plasmagun -15 point reduction

Drop Pod

10 model capacity

Land Speeder Storm

Now a dedicated transport for Scouts
-5 point reduction
May replace Heavy Bolter with free Heavy Flamer, Multi-melta for 5 points less, Assault Cannon for 15 points less
Jamming Beacon now makes models that are in range roll twice the number of scatter dice that distance they normally would
Cerberus Launcher: 18" S2, AP-, Heavy 1, Large Blast, Blind

Elites
Sternguard

-3 points per model
Up to two Sternguard may take a Special or Heavy weapon from the wargear lis
Combi weapons went 5 points each

Vanguard

-1 point per model
All models may take weapons from the melee wargear list
Jump packs -7 points less per pack
Storm shields -5 points less per shield
Heroic Intervention: Unit doesn't suffer penalties for disordered charges, and Veteran Sergeants automatically pass Glorious Intervention checks

Dreadnoughts

-5 points less model
Venerable a +25 point upgrade
Assault Cannon +10 point increase
TL Lascannon -5 point decrease
Left-arm Autocannon +5 points
Does not have Chapter Tactics

Ironclad Dreadnought

Points cost unchanged
Meltagun option free
No Chapter Tactics

Legion of the Damned

-10 points per model
1 model may take one of the following special weapons: Flamer (-15 points cheaper), Melta (-10 points cheaper), Plasma (-5 points cheaper)
No grav option
1 model may take a Heavy Weapon from the wargear section
Sergeant may take a weapon from Ranged wargear
Sergeant may replace bolter with chainsword for free, power weapon (same cost as wargear), power fist (same cost as wargear)
All shooting attacks ignore cover
All special rules the same

Terminators

Same base cost
Heavy Flamer +5 points more
Assault Cannon -10 points cheaper
Cyclone Missile Launcher -10 points cheaper

Assault Terminators

Same base cost
Thunderhammer/Stormshield +5 points more

Assault Centurions

First 3 cost 10 points less than base Terminator squad
Up to 3 models may be purchased for purchased for the squad for the same cost as a Predator (each)
May replace the Iron Clad Launcher with Missile Launcher for free
May replace Twin-linked flamer for a Twin-linked Melta for the cost of a flamer in the wargear section
Sergeant may purchase an Omniscope for the cost of a melta gun. It grants him Night Fight and Split Fire
May take a Land Raider as a Dedicated Transport
Has Move Through Cover, and Extra Bulky Special rules
Decimator Protocols: Models with this rule may fire up to 2 weapons in the shooting phase.

Fast Attack
Assault Squad

-1 point per model cheaper
Flamer 5 points cheaper
Plasma pistol unchanged
Veteran Sergeant upgrade same cost as in DA book
Sergeant/Veteran Sergeant have access to Melee wargear, and purchase a Grav Pistol or Plasma Pistol for the same cost
Dedicated Transport rules unchanged

Land Speeder Storm Squadron

Typhoon Missile Launcher 15 points cheaper
Assault Cannon 10 points cheaper
Multi-melta, Heavy Flamer, and Heavy Bolter unchanged

Storm Talon

Same as in Death from the Skies

Bike Squad

4 points less per model
Veteran Sergeant upgrade same cost as in DA book
Sergeant/Veteran Sergeant have access to Melee and Ranged wargear
Attack bike upgrade +5 points more

Attack Bikes

+5 more per model

Scout Bikes

2 points cheaper per model
Grenade launcher upgrade -5 points cheaper
Locator Beacon -15 points cheaper
Veteran Sergeant upgrade same cost as in DA book
Sergeant/Veteran Sergeant have access to Melee and Ranged wargear
Cluster mines are now placed by putting a marker in a terrain peice for both players to see. They alsonow turn a piece of difficult terrain into Dangerous terrain. Limit 1 marker per terrain piece.

Heavy Support
Devastator Squad

Same base cost as new Tacticals
Veteran Sergeant upgrade same cost as in DA book
Sergeant/Veteran Sergeant have access to Melee and Ranged wargear
Up to 4 Marines may each take 1 Heavy weapon from the Heavy Weapons wargear section

Devastator Centurions

Same base cost as Assault Centurions
Same cost for additional models as Assault Centurions
May replace the Hurricane Bolter with Missile Launchers for the cost of a meltagun
May replace the Heavy Bolters with Lascannons for the cost of 2 meltaguns
May replace Heavy Bolters with Grav Cannon/Grav Amp for the cost of 2 meltaguns
Sergeant may take Omniscope for same cost as meltagun
May take Landraider as Dedicated Transport
Does not have Move Through Cover

Thunderfire Cannon

No change

Predator

Base cost +15 points more
TL Lascannon -20 points cheaper
Heavy bolter Sponsons -5 points cheaper
Lascannon Sponsons -20 points cheaper

Whirlwind

Base cost -20 cheaper

Vindicator

Base cost +10 points

Hunter

10 points more than current Predator
Skyspear Missile Launcher: 60" S7, AP2, Heavy 1, Savant Lock, Armorbane
Savant Lock: When shooting at a flyer or flying monstrous creature, you put a marker on it for each miss. The markers stay on the flyer until it leaves the table, is destroyed or is engaged in close combat. At the beginning of every friendly shooting phase you roll for those markers. On a 5 or a 6 that missile hits vehicles in the rear armor, these shots are resolved using the above profile.

Stalker

Same cost as new Predator cost
Icarus Storm Cannon Array: 48", S7, AP4, Heavy 4
Icarus has two firing modes: Single target and Dual Target
Single target: above profile, twin-linked
Dual target: Must be declared before shooting. Pick two targets in range and resolve shooting attacks against them using both of them, but at BS2

All Land Raiders

No points change
"Godhammer" variant now holds 10 models.
No other changes

Storm Raven

No changes from Death from the Skies

Other Notes:
Graviton Weapons

All S-, AP2
All have the Graviton rule: Use armor save to wound. Against vehicles roll a D6, on a 1-5 nothing happens, on a 6 the vehicle is Immobilized and loses a hull point. Grav weapons do not effect buildings.

From FW:
"We plan to review all of the Badab Chacaters once the Space Marine Codex has been released. However, we don't have a specific time frame for this so please accept our apologies. "

So there we are folks, a lot more rumors to go with the ones we've already got. I don't know about you but I'm excited. Plus I think the Hunter and Stalker tanks look better than people were expecting considering neither have Interceptor or firing modes that let them not shoot as if they're Skyfiring.

Speaking of Skyfire, I just want to remind people that Skyfire works on Skimmers too. So those Eldar tanks you don't like, or the Necron skimmers that never want to go down can be shot at using your full ballistic skill with those new tanks.

Well that's all for now. I'll keep you posted if anything else comes out, but failing that it looks like what's up next is Tyranids, so we'll be diving into that real soon. So stayed tune for more rumors, because I'll keep serving them piping hot!

Pour information, les boites retirées de la vente demain : tactique par 10, tactique par 5, les vétérans d'appui et d'assaut, la boite de force SM, les codex SM et BT.

Comment reconnaître un parrain de la mafia... c'est le seul qui a les moyens de se payer une armée neuve à 40k.


C'était déjà sûr et cela devient certain : nous sommes des putains de nantis!

Je revends mon armée et je finance une chaîne TNT sur les recettes de soupes aux poireaux.
Kub? Tu veux bien faire le poireau? Tof fera la soupe... hihihi. Et chef 2pouf à poil sous son tablier. Miam miam

c'est officiel

tiens ils ressortent les bombe de sous couche codex (faire et défaire tout ça...)

Putain ils sont trop fort , GW , planter le site le jour des préventes du dex Marounes , c'est vraiment super professionnel ( ou alors ça vient de ma connection , pas impossible , ça ...   )

 

J'adorrrrrre ton avatar mon boublik !!!

poufpouf a écrit:

J'adorrrrrre ton avatar mon boublik !!!

oui, moi aussi........lui ainsi que ma localisation, rende hommage a nos deux belles assos, et surtout aux rassemblement de ces deux assos.....
et puis surtout par ce que l'on est beau....   

bon, moi je confirme que je vais me prendre une boite de vétérans d'appuis (il y a au moins dedans : 3 combi-plasma, 3 ou 2 combi-fuseurs, 2 combil-flammes, 2 combi-gravitons, 1 l-flammes lourd, ect...) que du bonheur pour mes crimsons...
ainsi qu'un hunter/stalker...je pense...

Comment ils se la pètent , les deux vieux cons en photo , là , j'y crois pas !! ( vous avez raison , ça n'a rien à voir avec le sujet du topic mais j'interviens quand meme , na ! )

prochain tournoi mon dédé on se fait une photo Tif et Tondu on va leur faire voir qu'on peut être plus mytho qu'eux

autant les nouveaux kits de "troupailles vétérans" sont bien fournis, autant ne les voir que par 5 fait qu'en soit il faudra leur adjoindre un kit de base pour en descendre raisonnablement le prix (et en avoir 15...)

avec le souvenir du captain SM multi-part en tête à 15€, déjà bien fourni à l'époque, les nouveaux persos s'adaptent aux grappes PS, et GW semble (pour une fois peut-être, diront certains aigris) écouter ses clients et abandonner le failcast de merde (pire que le mithril à travailler à mes yeux), mais au tarif annoncé, j'ai du mal à comprendre (5 vet à 35 et 1 perso à 25..., je prend 10 vet et je me fais les captains de compagnie à la stuff... ce qu'on ne pouvait pas faire avec les kits mithril ou finecast - donc au final, les prix s'entendent avec les facilités que cela va apporter à composer une armée de plus de gueule)

à part leur tentative infructueuse à nous vendre de la fausse résine/faux plastique/vraie merde, il est à noter que la gravure/conception des moules c'est nettement améliorée (que ce soit en multi-part ou monobloc)

avec le passage des dex à 46€, papier glacé et couv rigide, oui, mais en plus je dois fournir la vaseline?
le dernier que j'ai acheté, CG en juin 2012... à 23€ pièce à l'époque, me fait dire qu'au moins, ça me donnais envie de tous les acheter tous les 3 mois juste parce que j'aime ça.
avec un dex tous les 2 mois pour le double du prix, ça ne me donne plus envie d'en acheter un seul, même pas ceux de mes armées.
et de me dire que si je ne veux pas abimer le bousin, il faudra que j'achète une tablette à 150€ pour acheter le PDF à 46€ (parce que même sans papier, c'est le même tarif), et risquer de me faire braquer l'ensemble, ça ne me fais pas plus apprécier la manœuvre.

    

Pour les vieux de la vieille ( les vieux cons comme nous , quoi ... ) , le prix du nouveau dex space marsouins correspond à peu de choses près au prix du livre de règle V3 , ça fait rèver , non ?
D'accord , cétait il y-a près de 15 ans , mais quand meme ....  

GW ils montent encore les prix c'est des cons (le prix des QG ca devient vraiment nawak...). Bon ca changera rien, rien ne m'oblige d'acheter mais ca fait du bien de le dire  .

En tout cas: la qualité des figs et la quantité de bitz est vraiment au rendez vous. Les détails sur les armures, les nouvelles têtes etc... c'est vraiment du tout bon.

Le petit truc qui j'apprécie sur les dernière sortie, c'est le détail de la galerie sur le site, montrer les figurines peints dans plusieurs schémas de couleur, montrer les grappes, éventuellement le 360° etc...

Un coup de gueule + un bon point ca s'annule non? Bon bein je vais rester un pigeon

+1 avec Drako. Mais le prix est vraiment rédhibitoire.






Vas y Jérôme... je te laisse la main pour le jeu de mot.

Pour info, à l'occasion de la sortie du Codex Space Marounes nous, Tontons Fling'Eure, faisons une commande groupée chez le magasin Noctambulles à Louviers (notre revendeur GW attitré).
Remises :
* - 15% sur le codex Space Maroune,
* - 23% sur les articles GW classiques,
* - 15% sur les articles GW en VPC.

Commande groupé accessibles aux clubs autres que les Tontons Fling'Eure

Livraison = comme d'hab ... quand je viens dans la région.
Pour commander -> là : http://ltfedp.forumactif.com/t1200-nouveaute-de-la-rentree-prochaine-commande-groupee-soiree-jeu

White dwarf en mains... 
les figs sont vraiments belles, même les centurions...

les chars antiaériens ont l'air passablement violent, ils ont bl12, en fait. le stalker à 6 futs qu'il peut diriger sur 2 cibles...

ca confirme mon idée de la mort programmée des avions légers.